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a week or two later david urban david, kentucky. and thank you very much we're just so donald walking back into the courtroom here with a paula reid& kaitlan collins, that was the argument that down trump made that they sort of ended up on, which is this was locker room talk about the access hollywood tape and that's sort of the line that they embraced. >> it was a moment of complete crisis when this tape came out. i mean, the idea, yes. now, they'll say you know, when something happens. oh, well, it kipp is bad as access. hello, but the fact that they survived and lived through that it's kind of gallows humor among trump, aide who were there at that time. also, there's evidence and documents to back us up where hope hicks, michael cohen, others were talking about this. i mean, that tape came out when they were in the middle of debate prep. it is lowered. >> it came out on the front. i mean, i remember i did the debate on sunday we were doing debate prep friday is when the tape came out. i mean, it was a bombshell. >> trump's fraud,
a week or two later david urban david, kentucky. and thank you very much we're just so donald walking back into the courtroom here with a paula reid& kaitlan collins, that was the argument that down trump made that they sort of ended up on, which is this was locker room talk about the access hollywood tape and that's sort of the line that they embraced. >> it was a moment of complete crisis when this tape came out. i mean, the idea, yes. now, they'll say you know, when something...
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they're going to attack the credibility of david pecker. the idea that he was that he was trying to avoid liability himself here by coming in and testifying. they're going to use all of those things. but really, when you go back to new york statue that they're relying on and they, they telegraph that nowhere in that statute doesn't reference campaign finance, right? >> and they're using, they're trying to bolster this argument that the federal election law prohibits it, and that states new york state law, how somehow applies to that. >> so you're going through two levels. >> and now that that is going to be what makes that a felony, that's a long way to go to get to get to that felony charge. and there's a whole lot more that needs to be shown in order to make the show that proof. because one foreign presence was never charged, the campaign never paid a fine. and while ami paid and agreed to that and michael cohen was charged and pled guilty. they're not allowed to tie michael cohen's guilty plea to trump for the drugs is the judge's origin
they're going to attack the credibility of david pecker. the idea that he was that he was trying to avoid liability himself here by coming in and testifying. they're going to use all of those things. but really, when you go back to new york statue that they're relying on and they, they telegraph that nowhere in that statute doesn't reference campaign finance, right? >> and they're using, they're trying to bolster this argument that the federal election law prohibits it, and that states...
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and of course, david will remind everyone first le, who exactly david is. remind us all about the role he has played generally. david, the prosecution's first witness, and a very important one and donald trump are old friends. >> they go back to the 1980s together. most importantly for this case david was the chairman and ceo of american media incorporated. you'll hear them referred to as ami. there's a company that runs the national enquirer, the famous or infamous tabloid, and the crocks of david is testimony goes to this practice that they would engage in called catch and kill, where they would purchase the rights to a story that would have been unflattering according to donald trump and then kill it and then not run it and they're going to focus specifically on three incidents of catch-and-kill in this trial. first of all, stormy daniels this is the charge. the charge relates not to the act of catching and killing. that's not the crime, but the final is not a crime, right? exactly. not a crime to catch and kill, not a crime to pay hush money. but the fi
and of course, david will remind everyone first le, who exactly david is. remind us all about the role he has played generally. david, the prosecution's first witness, and a very important one and donald trump are old friends. >> they go back to the 1980s together. most importantly for this case david was the chairman and ceo of american media incorporated. you'll hear them referred to as ami. there's a company that runs the national enquirer, the famous or infamous tabloid, and the...
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david pecker said, yes, it was later david pecker testified, we didn't want the story to embarrass mr. trump or embarrassed or hurt that campaign prosecutors are going to say, look, the motive was campaign donald trump's team is going to say well, there was also a personal motive here for donald trump's. so look for that on cross now eventually they enter into a contract with karen mcdougal, ami, david pecker enters into a contract that donald trump himself was not part of. and david pecker said the purpose of that agreement was to disguise the true nature of the contract. they didn't want the public learning about karen mcdougal's allegations. now that brings us to sort of between chapter two and chapter three. the big thing that happens is the access hollywood tape came out and the jury's not seeing that tape, but they've learned about it. this is where donald trump gets caught on camera talking about, you can grab them by the blank, et cetera. we remember that tape and pecker said, when that takes it came out, it was very embarrassing, very damaging. again, to the campaign importan
david pecker said, yes, it was later david pecker testified, we didn't want the story to embarrass mr. trump or embarrassed or hurt that campaign prosecutors are going to say, look, the motive was campaign donald trump's team is going to say well, there was also a personal motive here for donald trump's. so look for that on cross now eventually they enter into a contract with karen mcdougal, ami, david pecker enters into a contract that donald trump himself was not part of. and david pecker...
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david yes. >> good. yeah. good. so people come back track of this, all this doorman's story is the first of three parts of the catch and kill scheme that prosecutors are going to introduce. there's paying off after the doorman, the $30,000 next up will be the paying of karen mcdougal to catch and kill her story $150,000. and then the third one will be the one that's charged in the indictment. the falsification relating to the non-disclosure pay of stormy daniels and didn't say earlier today, karen the national enquirer typically didn't by stories just to suppress them. >> yes, i believe so, yes. that is definitely the case. and i think that goes that's further evidence that this was an illegal conspiracy which and the reason we keep going back to that term is a coconspirator statement is an exception to the hearsay rule and that's why you hear this coming up over and over again in court because a lot of evidence the prosecution is trying to said at the time this could be a very big story. i believe it's important th
david yes. >> good. yeah. good. so people come back track of this, all this doorman's story is the first of three parts of the catch and kill scheme that prosecutors are going to introduce. there's paying off after the doorman, the $30,000 next up will be the paying of karen mcdougal to catch and kill her story $150,000. and then the third one will be the one that's charged in the indictment. the falsification relating to the non-disclosure pay of stormy daniels and didn't say earlier...
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barry, i'm wondering, i'm a, you know, david pecker obviously. well, you worked with the enquirer for a long time. you had some involvement with that doorman's story. how do you what do you make of him as a witness? >> well, listen, i was there anderson for 17 years. i was actually the first editorial higher for david pecker back in 1999 it's certainly troubling to be to be watching this unfold in thinking back to the great years of breaking so many great stories, john edwards, tiger woods jesse jackson's paternity of a child i was i left the inquire after the doorman's story two months before the karen mcdougal story, before they got involved with that. and the last trump's story that i did work on was the doorman's story and david pecker was absolutely right. had that story turned out to be true, and he published it, it would have been a mega sale it might have sold millions of copies. >> did you know that he was going to kill it if it turned out, regardless of what it turned out. well, listen, i mean, i remember going back to 2010 when i knew
barry, i'm wondering, i'm a, you know, david pecker obviously. well, you worked with the enquirer for a long time. you had some involvement with that doorman's story. how do you what do you make of him as a witness? >> well, listen, i was there anderson for 17 years. i was actually the first editorial higher for david pecker back in 1999 it's certainly troubling to be to be watching this unfold in thinking back to the great years of breaking so many great stories, john edwards, tiger...
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david pecker says yes. and in fact that another place david becker says, the first time he heard the phrase catch and kill was from investigators when they were asking him about this, they say before this investigation started, you had not heard the phrase catch and kill david becker says, that's correct. i thought that was a very pretty skillful cross-examining and a good read, write, and even, even better you should have taken that law school. >> but anyway but isn't the answer. >> so what ultimately you know, he he hadn't covered up for other celebrities, they weren't running for president. >> he didn't pay $150,000. what was covered right arnold schwarzenegger he ran for governor at some point, but we don't know when or what he did for arnold schwarzenegger. >> this was so different from all those other searches. >> i'm not saying you're wrong from what i was told them, people in the courtroom today, it was very pretty similar what he did for arnold schwarzenegger. in fact, there was a lot of examinatio
david pecker says yes. and in fact that another place david becker says, the first time he heard the phrase catch and kill was from investigators when they were asking him about this, they say before this investigation started, you had not heard the phrase catch and kill david becker says, that's correct. i thought that was a very pretty skillful cross-examining and a good read, write, and even, even better you should have taken that law school. >> but anyway but isn't the answer....
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york the former presidents trial continue with more testimony from his one-time friend and publisher david pecker. he described his role as suppressing the storieies and te affairs would donald trump. this photo shows pecker and the former president walking past the white house rose garden. the president asking him at that moment according to him, how is karen doing and he said he replied she is doing well, she is quiet, everything is going well. in another conversation he said he referred to dougal as our girl. he also suggested trump was angry about the interviews i did with her and stormy daniels. we will bring you excerpts from our coverage tonight. >> the supreme court oral arguments and the conservatives appeared to embrace some form of criminal immunity. the liberal minority by contrast focused on the temptation that might be for the future president if they have that. >> what i am more worried about you seem to be worried about the president being chilled. i think we would have a really significant opposite problem if the president wasn't chilled. if someone with those kinds of pow
york the former presidents trial continue with more testimony from his one-time friend and publisher david pecker. he described his role as suppressing the storieies and te affairs would donald trump. this photo shows pecker and the former president walking past the white house rose garden. the president asking him at that moment according to him, how is karen doing and he said he replied she is doing well, she is quiet, everything is going well. in another conversation he said he referred to...
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on cross-examination of david pecker today? >> the core of his he's a vehicle by the prosecution to set the stage and just talk about this august 2015 meeting in which this catch and kill conspiracy as the prosecution has laid it out, began where he met with donald trump and michael cohen. so they were trying to go back to that meeting and suggests that it was just like businesses usual, it was standard operating procedure for the national enquirer. so aiml beauvais want to trump's defense lawyers had asked pecker on the stan i want you i want to stick with the august 2015 trump tower meeting. pecker says yes, beauvais says, at that meeting, the concept of catch-and-kill was not discussed, correct? pecker said that's correct but they asked and then there was no discussion of a financial dimension to any agreement at that meeting, correct? pecker said, yes, that's correct. so trying to say that there was no blatant conversation about a catch and kill and that i'm going to buy the deals now on redirect with the prosecution, they
on cross-examination of david pecker today? >> the core of his he's a vehicle by the prosecution to set the stage and just talk about this august 2015 meeting in which this catch and kill conspiracy as the prosecution has laid it out, began where he met with donald trump and michael cohen. so they were trying to go back to that meeting and suggests that it was just like businesses usual, it was standard operating procedure for the national enquirer. so aiml beauvais want to trump's...
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david pecker says, when mr. trump called me, he said to the same, he asked me if i saw the stormy daniels interview with anderson cooper. i said, yes, i did. he said that we have an agreement with stormy daniels that she cannot mention my name or do anything like this dollar. joe stein glasses. that's what donald trump told you packer. that's what he told me i'm jeff. >> you've recently interviewed stormy daniels. does she there is some money. she'll well, its own a desperate problem for stormy daniels when she was representing attended by michael ava naughty of blessed memory he sued donald trump on her behalf for defamation that case was not only thrown out of court, but the judge in california awarded attorney's fees to donald trump because the judge said the case was frivolous. >> those were assessed best against the client, stormy daniels, not against the lawyer that debt which has been multiplying over the years is currently about $670,000. so stormy daniels owes donald trump at this moment about $670,000
david pecker says, when mr. trump called me, he said to the same, he asked me if i saw the stormy daniels interview with anderson cooper. i said, yes, i did. he said that we have an agreement with stormy daniels that she cannot mention my name or do anything like this dollar. joe stein glasses. that's what donald trump told you packer. that's what he told me i'm jeff. >> you've recently interviewed stormy daniels. does she there is some money. she'll well, its own a desperate problem for...
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who is david? you need to set the stage even if people are vaguely familiar with stormy daniels and some of the more salacious allegations they're absolutely not familiar with the nuts and bolts, so that's why they need to walk them through step-by-step, taking the time to talk about the numbers or the email accounts all setting up these larger pieces of evidence that the prosecution hopes will prove their case are important or not having isolation, right. >> todd blanche, to the defense team are going to have their shot as well. >> and who's going to tell a better story with the better facts and details that they believe prove their version of events is probably going to determine who wins his case and who ends this case. >> i could mean everything 12 people, maybe 18 could determine everything in this country. all right. thank you both. and as we stay here continuing our special coverage, wealth thanks, erin. thanks very much. are cnn legal analysts are back with the right now, karen friedman, ag
who is david? you need to set the stage even if people are vaguely familiar with stormy daniels and some of the more salacious allegations they're absolutely not familiar with the nuts and bolts, so that's why they need to walk them through step-by-step, taking the time to talk about the numbers or the email accounts all setting up these larger pieces of evidence that the prosecution hopes will prove their case are important or not having isolation, right. >> todd blanche, to the defense...
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david pecker. we'll be right back how would really happened sunday at nine on cnn. >> you know, when i take the bike out like this, all my stress is just melt away. >> i hear that is bad. boy can fix anything yeah. >> tough day at work, nice cruises sorts. >> you write out when i'm writing, i'm not even thinking about my painful cavity he shouldn't ignore it. and every time i get stressed about having to pay my bills hop. on the bike, man, i'll come on. >> you got to pay your bills. >> you don't have to worry about anything when you're protected by america's number one motorcycle insurer? >> well, you definitely do those things aren't related so that is a vibrating pain at morgan stanley old-school hard work meets ball new thinking to help you see untapped possibilities and relax leslie, work with you to make them real okay. yeah, we got orders coming in, starting a business is never easy. a star near eight months pregnant that's a different story. sorry. >> i couldn't slow down. we were starting a
david pecker. we'll be right back how would really happened sunday at nine on cnn. >> you know, when i take the bike out like this, all my stress is just melt away. >> i hear that is bad. boy can fix anything yeah. >> tough day at work, nice cruises sorts. >> you write out when i'm writing, i'm not even thinking about my painful cavity he shouldn't ignore it. and every time i get stressed about having to pay my bills hop. on the bike, man, i'll come on. >> you got...
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it had david pecker who wrapped up more than ten hours or testimony over a period of four days, he was as also trump's former longtime assistant, rhona graff, who was only on the stand for what, a half an hour, then michael cohen's former banker, gary farro, who is likely to continue testifying this coming tuesday the prosecution wants jurist remember, pecker's testimony that his intention was to never publish karen mcdougal story of an alleged affair with trump from the transcript, he said, had you published a story about a playboy model having a year long sexual affair while he was married with a presidential candidate without that have sold magazines. see if think his answer. >> yes, that'd be like national enquirer gold. >> yes. >> going on to say and despite the fact that publishing that story would have helped your bottom line, you killed the story because it helped the candidate donald trump yes and then there was a rhona graff, trump's longtime gatekeeper over at the trump organization. >> her desk was at one point just outside of trump's office from the defensive standpoint, s
it had david pecker who wrapped up more than ten hours or testimony over a period of four days, he was as also trump's former longtime assistant, rhona graff, who was only on the stand for what, a half an hour, then michael cohen's former banker, gary farro, who is likely to continue testifying this coming tuesday the prosecution wants jurist remember, pecker's testimony that his intention was to never publish karen mcdougal story of an alleged affair with trump from the transcript, he said,...
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what was it about david pecker's testimony? >> you think? it's making him think if it's even necessary last week, you said he would testify. >> so i think that he he's he will throw whatever out whatever he wants to throw out there. right. >> don't i wouldn't read too much into it one day he's going to say he's testified and one de is got because he needs to defend himself the next day is going to say this case is bs and i don't need to testify because it's garbage. so you're going to hear that throughout the trial as especially as he absorbs the information day in and day out. >> i just i don't think you can give any any logical credence to the what he says about whether he testifies are not because i don't think i think at the end of the de is lawyers are gonna adamantly be against him testifying because there's a whole lot of stuff that's going to come out in the judge is going to allow it and he doesn't they're not going to want that in the public domain. standby. everyone, that very point figure out what the judge will actually limit te
what was it about david pecker's testimony? >> you think? it's making him think if it's even necessary last week, you said he would testify. >> so i think that he he's he will throw whatever out whatever he wants to throw out there. right. >> don't i wouldn't read too much into it one day he's going to say he's testified and one de is got because he needs to defend himself the next day is going to say this case is bs and i don't need to testify because it's garbage. so you're...
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they got david pecker to say michael cohen is prone to exaggeration. and so they're going to do that by the way, with a lot of other witnesses. if kellyanne conway takes the stand i bet she has negative things to say about michael cohen. maybe hope hicks two. and what you do as a defense lawyer, not my profession, ards, but i've seen enough good ones inaction when it comes down for closing go folks. their own witnesses, the first guy they put in front of you, david pecker, said that their star witness is prone to exaggeration if you find that he exactly related to this case is over. so that's a really smart and effective tactic like michael cohen can be restored as the star witness so easily because people forget or maybe don't forget that he pled guilty to the same scheme that trump is now being put on trial for and people generally as a defense lawyer do not plead guilty to things they didn't do. that plea is locked in. he took a three-year jail sentence for the acts that he claimed in open court when he entered his plea. i did this at the direction
they got david pecker to say michael cohen is prone to exaggeration. and so they're going to do that by the way, with a lot of other witnesses. if kellyanne conway takes the stand i bet she has negative things to say about michael cohen. maybe hope hicks two. and what you do as a defense lawyer, not my profession, ards, but i've seen enough good ones inaction when it comes down for closing go folks. their own witnesses, the first guy they put in front of you, david pecker, said that their star...
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he also tried to catch david pecker in some inconsistencies in here his testimony, david pecker has been cooperating with prosecutors, the federal prosecutors and the district attorney's office for several years now. and so they were focusing on remember, the testimony about a january 2017 meeting at trump tower that david pecker walked into all donald trump was finishing up a meeting with some of with the f then cia director james comey and others and during this meeting is when david pecker testified that there was that he had a conversation so what donald trump donald trump thanked him for taking care of the doorman's story in the karen mcdougal story so donald trump's attorneys pressed him on notes from previous interview had given with investigators. and in that interview notes he said, according to the fbi's nodes, that david pecker told them that donald trump did not express any gratitude david pecker dug in on that today saying that the fbi knows were wrong and that his testimony over the past few days is that correct accurate testimony? so a lot of back and forth over different
he also tried to catch david pecker in some inconsistencies in here his testimony, david pecker has been cooperating with prosecutors, the federal prosecutors and the district attorney's office for several years now. and so they were focusing on remember, the testimony about a january 2017 meeting at trump tower that david pecker walked into all donald trump was finishing up a meeting with some of with the f then cia director james comey and others and during this meeting is when david pecker...
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and also collaborates david pecker, right? go back to how we for sure everything is about repetition right? and primacy and recency. thinking about what are the your marks have things that a song and it gets in your ear a great sermon, a great speech. it's all about repetition. and so the more you hear it, the more it goes into the brain of the jurors that you believe it. so david pecker this episode is already and said, listen, i wasn't paying for this. i didn't want to do that. but he also wanted to have a shell company wanted to have i don't want a direct line between the trump organization in me. i ultimately rep. if his contract, all that stuff. now the jury is thinking, oh, wait, you know what i've heard this before. now it rings true to me. you know, what's another bit of repetition you're going to keep hearing and you heard today on that debt that i told you the words, porn star, and it is in the interest of the defense. >> keep reminding the jury about what the jobs are of these people, what they are doing and seeking
and also collaborates david pecker, right? go back to how we for sure everything is about repetition right? and primacy and recency. thinking about what are the your marks have things that a song and it gets in your ear a great sermon, a great speech. it's all about repetition. and so the more you hear it, the more it goes into the brain of the jurors that you believe it. so david pecker this episode is already and said, listen, i wasn't paying for this. i didn't want to do that. but he also...
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don't think anybody who's it for since i'd love to talk to you people, i'd love to see your group, david. so my nine, but i'm restricted because they have a gag and i'm going to choose anybody is ever seen anything like this before. they might read every one of these, your incomplete week, someone and i'll look at headlines wrongdoing headlines at the kingston's a sham but i can read the whole thing. i've been reading. >> this is like union can now so i put a knock somebody's name is mentioned, so we're deepen the article in violation of the gag order i think it's a disgrace. it's totally unconstitutional. i don't believe it's centered not to this extent ever happened before. i'm not allowed to defend myself and yet other people, say whatever they want about me having to the schools of the closer that's biden small. and by the way, this trial is all this is all biden-run just in case anybody has any questions and then keeping me in a court for it's freezing by the way the in input from all day long well, he's got good bedding. that's probably an advantage as he kicked campaign. nobody no
don't think anybody who's it for since i'd love to talk to you people, i'd love to see your group, david. so my nine, but i'm restricted because they have a gag and i'm going to choose anybody is ever seen anything like this before. they might read every one of these, your incomplete week, someone and i'll look at headlines wrongdoing headlines at the kingston's a sham but i can read the whole thing. i've been reading. >> this is like union can now so i put a knock somebody's name is...
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jeff sessions because david pecker, this national enquirer tabloid king, he got concerned at one point when he got a letter from the fec he and he called michael cohen, then trump's personal attorney to voice concern about that. michael cohen told him not to worry because jeff sessions is the attorney general and donald trump has him in his pocket did trump expect his ag to go easy on his friends i don't know. >> i don't know what he expected. what was your experience? my experience was why the time i came in, he did not he did not push me to do one thing or another on these criminal cases. now we tweeted and made his public views on things known. but they never talked to me about them directly. so he did not have you in his pocket? >> he would argue it's not a question of arguing. >> i did what i thought was right. >> and you never felt any direct pressure from him on what investigations the doj you did not directly pressure maybe as i say, he was there are tweeting and doing things that were embarrassing and made it hard for me to run the department that sounds like pressure wasn't p
jeff sessions because david pecker, this national enquirer tabloid king, he got concerned at one point when he got a letter from the fec he and he called michael cohen, then trump's personal attorney to voice concern about that. michael cohen told him not to worry because jeff sessions is the attorney general and donald trump has him in his pocket did trump expect his ag to go easy on his friends i don't know. >> i don't know what he expected. what was your experience? my experience was...